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This editor returned from a month-long working vacation in Honolulu last week and was able to review a PC Gamerz (PCGz) Hawaii ‘Blue Elixir‘ prebuild while there. We met the owner, Devin Wolery, last November and were so impressed with his company, we featured it in our article about the state of PC Gaming in Hawaii.

This time, we wanted hands on experience to underdstand what makes PC Gamerz prebuilt PCs different from other boutique and big box builders so that in a few short years their business increased tenfold to become one of the largest independent PC outlets in Hawaii and has attracted a fanbase of loyal customers. Since PC Gamerz is now expanding to the Mainland and internationally, it’s a good time to see if they are competitive enough to compete outside of Hawaii.

Hawaii may be an island paradise, but work is still work here even on a lanai.
Here is our temporary office space in a Waikiki condo. We borrowed the Blue Elixir PC and a 1080P 165Hz ACER 24″ display from PCGz, but we brought our own 17″ notebook, gaming mice, a 4TB USB 3.2 Type-C Gen 2 x2 SSD, and an Anne Pro 2 60% Mechanical Keyboard.

We arranged with Devin for a Blue Elixir Core i7-12700KF/DDR4/RTX 3080 FTW prebuilt and spent nearly a month playing games, benchmarking, and testing video cards with it including a review of the Hellhound RX 6650 XT against the RTX 3060 and RTX 3060 Ti. Is it worth its $3549 asking price and how does its performance compare with a no-expenses-spared i9-12900KF/DDR5/RTX 3080 Founders Edition (FE) PC?

Why a Prebuilt PC?

This editor’s first and last prebuilt desktop PC was in Hawaii in 1996. We were disappointed with what we got for what we paid and within two months, we learned how to build our own. It was a overclocked Celeron 300A PC with a ATi Rage Fury 32MB video card and it blew away the prebuild for less money. Learning PC building was a major time investment, and we realize that we are the exception, not the rule.

Last week, a friend of ours emailed us to ask us what RAM and NVMe SSD upgrade would breathe life into his aging i7-4790K PC until he could afford a new build. We gave him suggestions and he ordered the parts. Well, the upgrade turned out to be more complex than he liked as he had to update his motherboard’s BIOS to recognize NVMe and he didn’t know anything about SATA lanes and disk management.

My friend told me he “didn’t have the patience for this kind of stuff” and offered to drive 50 miles one way, pay me for my time, and have me do it for him. Gamers who lack patience, knowledgeable friends, or the time to research which parts work well together and how they interact with Windows will benefit by having a prebuilt PC where all the guesswork is taken out of their equation.
In the case of buying a PC from PCGz, expert patient support is offered by using email, the phone, Team Viewer, or Remote Assistance where the tech can even take over Windows to fix issues. This is where Prebuilts PCs shine and have value. PCGz PCs just work and no time is wasted getting right into gaming.
PC Gamerz also offers completely custom builds – made to your order – fully tested and benchmarked before shipping.

PC Gamerz ‘Blue Elixir‘ Features & Specifications

  • 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700KF
  • ASUS TUF GAMING H670-PRO WIFI D4 motherboard
  • Trident Z 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 with ARGB
  • Lian-Li Galahad 360 AIO Cooler
  • CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh White case
  • EVGA 850W PSU (Bronze)
  • Crucial P2 1TB NVMe SSD (2400MBps/1900MBps Read/Write)
  • EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 12GB 1800 MHz Boost Clock/12GB 384 bit GDDR6X video card
  • Windows 10 Pro with optimizations

We asked why Windows 10 is being used instead of Windows 11. PC Gamerz is currently evaluating Windows 11 and will offer it later on. We are going to compare game and creative benchmarks of the Blue Elixir on Win 10 versus BTR’s flagship on Win 11 for this review. In part two, we will directly compare 40 games and creative benches using the Blue Elixir on Win 10 versus a clean installation we made of Win 11 to see if there are any performance disadvantages or advantages by upgrading.

Additional PCGz Information

  • Game Ready builds – Ready to Ship Prebuilt Gaming PCs by PCGz
  • Built with the latest high quality components from brands like ASUS, EVGA, Lian Li, Phanteks, Fractal Design and More!
  • We tune and optimize all aspects of your build including latest BIOS, Windows updates, registry and startup optimizations, RAM timing, game optimizations, RGB software and more!
  • Extensive stress testing and benchmarks, paired with high performance game testing allows us to prepare a PC “Ready to Game”, right out of the box. We analyze the metrics of the processor, graphics cards, RAM, etc. to ensure no component goes without optimization. Once all testing is complete and each PC runs smoothly, without bottlenecks/stability issues, it is ready to be received by our customers.
  • Supported with a comprehensive 2 year parts and labor warranty.
  • Responsive support that makes customers feel prioritized and understood. Each PC comes with lifetime expert technical support from our tech team with over 30 years of combined experience. We offer remote and telephone support to resolve issues as quickly and efficiently as possible.

The Test Bed

BTR’s test bed consists of 35 games and 5 synthetic game benchmarks at 1920×1080 as well as SPEC, workstation, CPU, memory, and GPGPU benchmarks. Our latest games include Total War: Warhammer III, God of War, Ghostwire: Tokyo, Elden Ring, Dying Light 2 and CoD: Vanguard.

The platform we compare the PCGz Blue Elixir with is BTR’s flagship PC using Windows 11 Professional: Intel Core i9-12900KF, an ASUS ROG Maximus Apex Z690 motherboard with 32GB T-FORCE DELTA 6400MHz CL40 DDR5, an RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition (FE) overclocked +35MHz, and a T-FORCE M200 4TB USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C Portable SSD that we used as game storage for both PCs. Please see the test bench configuration page for all of the details.

First, let’s take a closer look at the PCGz Blue Elixir.

A Closer Look

The Blue Elixir can be shipped or picked up at the PCGz retail outlet at the Navy Mall in Salt Lake or at their Aiea warehouse. We used Lyft to transport the Blue Elixir PC and loaner ACER display to our Waikiki condo in the Cooler Master case box.

The Blue Elixir is packed inside the sturdy box, but if you order it shipped, we highly recommend buying shipping insurance. Currently, PCGz is offering a $50 coupon for shipping to the Mainland. You can expect to pay $125-$150 for shipping depending on where you live without the discount coupon.

Opening the case box, we see an accessory box.

All PCGz PCs come with accessories, a quick setup guide, warranty information, and how to contact support.

The powercord, extra video card power cables, and a Wi-Fi antenna are included for the Blue Elixir.

If you pick up the PC, a tech will go over what to expect and a quick tour of its features. Everyone is instructed to turn the box upside down for ease of sliding out the PC instead of trying to lift it out.

We set the Blue Elixir up outside and took pictures of it in natural light. It is a very good looking white case build.

Turing it on we see RGB lighting on the fans, video card, and AIO which may be synched. We like that it is not an overdone RGB unicorn rainbow puke build.

We noticed the 12700KF was running warm even with a Lian Li 360mm cooler and suspected that the wrong backplate was used as all ASUS motherboards have holes for either LGA 1200/1151 or LGA 1700. This was confirmed when we returned the PC. Temperatures running Cinebench approached 100C on Core 5 but did not interfere with our benchmarks.

The fans used in the case are very quiet and they are tuned for performance in the BIOS by PCGz. We found their custom settings to be better than using ASUS Turbo fan settings.

The I/O panel has plenty of connectors and we made full use of the 2000MBps bandwidth provided by Type C Gen 2×2 for our 4TB M200 SSD. The Wi-Fi antennas are decent but we preferred to use a ethernet connection as the condo provided a solid 200Mbps connection for fast downloading of games and programs.

We were amazed at the incredibly neat cable management even behind the MB panel. Our own build cables are not so neat.

Upon returning the PC, we were informed that a new value added feature is being implemented for the Blue Elixir and other pre-built PCs. A screen can be custom programmed for the end user to display graphics or PC stats. Above is the Blue Elixir in black featuring the new screen.

We enjoyed the month we spent with the Blue Elixir playing games and benching which made our Honolulu working vacation even better.

Let’s check out its performance after we look over our test configuration and more on the next page.

Test Configuration – Hardware

PC Gamerz Hawaii Blue Elixir

  • Intel Core i7-12700KF (HyperThreading/Turbo boost On) (All listed Blue Elixir hardware except the portable SSD supplied by PC GamerZ Hawaii)
  • ASUS TUF Gaming H670-PRO WIFI D4 (Intel H670 chipset, latest BIOS, PCIe 5.0/5.0/3.0/3.1/3.2 specification, CrossFire/SLI 8x+8x)
  • G.SKILL Trident Z 16GB DDR4 (2x16GB, dual channel at 3600MHz)
  • Crucial P2 1TB NVMe SSD PCIe 3.0 (2400MBps/1900MBps Read/Write) for C: drive
  • The T-FORCE M200 4TB USB 3.2 Gen2x2 Type-C Portable SSD (supplied by Team Group for game storage)
  • EVGA 850B5, 850W Bronze PSU
  • ACER (LC27G75TQSNXZA) 27? 1920×1080/165Hz monitor
  • Lian-Li Galahad 360 AIO Cooler
  • CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh White

BTR’s Flagship PC

  • Intel Core i9-12900KF (HyperThreading and Turbo boost at stock settings).
  • ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Apex LGA 1700 motherboard (Intel Z690 chipset, latest BIOS, PCIe 5.0, DDR5)
  • T-FORCE DELTA RGB PC5-51200 6400MHz DDR5 CL40 2x16GB kit, supplied by TeamGroup
  • GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition 10GB (overclocked +35MHz), supplied by NVIDIA
  • T-FORCE CARDEA A440 Pro Special Series 2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD, supplied by TeamGroup
  • T-FORCE M200 4TB Portable Gen 2 x2 USB 3.2 Type C SSD, supplied by TeamGroup
  • Super Flower LedEx, 1200W Platinum 80+ power supply unit
  • MSI MEG CoreLiquid S360 – AIO CPU Liquid Cooler – 2.4″ IPS Display – 360mm Radiator – Triple 120mm Silent Gale P12 Fans
  • Corsair 5000D ATX mid-tower (plus 1 x 140mm Noctua fan; 2 x 120mm Noctua fans)
  • ASUS ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QNR 24.5” HDR Gaming Monitor, 1080P Full HD, Fast IPS, 1ms, G-SYNC, supplied by ASUS

Test Configuration – Software

  • GeForce 512.77
  • High Quality, prefer maximum performance, single display, set in the NVIDIA control panel; Vsync off.
  • Optimizations are off, Vsync is forced off, Texture filtering is set to High Quality, and Power management prefer maximum performance
  • AA enabled as noted in games; all in-game settings are specified with 16xAF always applied
  • Highest quality sound (stereo) used in all games
  • All games have been patched to their latest versions
  • Gaming results show average frame rates in bold including minimum frame rates (1% lows/99 percentiles) shown on the chart next to the averages in a smaller italics font where higher is better.
  • Windows 11 Pro edition for BTR’s PC and Windows 10 64-bit Pro edition for the Blue Elixir; latest updates. DX11 titles are run under the DX11 render path. DX12 titles are generally run under DX12, and multiple games use the Vulkan API.
  • Latest DirectX

Games

Vulkan

  • DOOM Eternal
  • Wolfenstein Youngblood
  • Red Dead Redemption 2
  • Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
  • World War Z
  • Rainbow 6 Siege

DX12

  • God of War
  • Ghostwire: Tokyo
  • Elden Ring
  • Dying Light 2
  • Call of Duty: Vanguard
  • Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Far Cry 6
  • Chernobylite
  • Resident Evil Village
  • Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition
  • Godfall
  • DiRT 5
  • Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla
  • Cyberpunk 2077
  • Watch Dogs: Legion
  • Horizon Zero Dawn
  • Death Stranding
  • F1 2021
  • Borderlands 3
  • Tom Clancy’s The Division 2
  • Civilization VI – Gathering Storm Expansion
  • Battlefield V
  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider

DX11

  • Total War: Warhammer III
  • Days Gone
  • Crysis Remastered
  • Destiny 2 Shadowkeep
  • Total War: Three Kingdoms
  • Overwatch
  • Assetto Corsa: Competizione

Synthetic

  • TimeSpy (DX12)
  • 3DMark FireStrike & Extreme
  • Superposition
  • VRMark Blue Room
  • Cinebench
  • GeekBench
  • OctaneBench
  • AIDA64 CPU, cache & memory, and GPGPU benchmarks
  • Blender 3.01 benchmark
  • Sandra 2021 CPU Benchmarks
  • SPECviewperf 2020
  • SPEC Workstation

NVIDIA Control Panel settings

Here are the NVIDIA Control Panel settings.

Next we look at overclocked performance.

Overclocking, temperatures and noise

Since the PC GamerZ PC ran rather warm, we did not attempt to overclock any hardware (memory or video card), not to mention that the H670 motherboard does not allow CPU overclocking. We think it is a mistake to pair a K or KF CPU with a H670 motherboard. A more logical pairing with be a H670 motherboard and a i7-12700 or i9-12900 (non-K) CPU which would also save money all round.

The other logical choice is to offer a slightly more expensive Z690 motherboard with 12x00K or KF CPUs for overclocking. BTR’s flagship i9-12900KF is able to overclock to 5.3GHz on Cores 0 and 1 and 5.1GHz on the rest of the P-cores but we left it stock for our comparison with the Blue Elixir. However, the RTX 3080 FE is only able to overclock +35MHz on its core while the EVGA RTX 3080 FTW is factory overclocked +80MHz (45MHz higher than the overclocked FE). So the FTW will definitely perform better than the FE by virtue of its higher clocks and 12GB DDR6 compared with the FE’s 10GB.

Let’s head to the performance charts

Performance Summary Charts

Here are the performance results of 35 games and 5 synthetic tests comparing BTR’s flagship with PCGz’ Blue Elixir. Click on each chart to open in a pop-up for best viewing.

All gaming results show average framerates in bold text, and higher is better. Minimum framerates (1% lows/99-percentiles) are next to the averages in italics and in a slightly smaller font. We picked the highest settings as shown on the charts. Wins are show by yellow text.

The PCGz Blue Elite by virtue of its faster EVGA RTX 3080 FTW trades blows with BTR’s flagship PC in 1080P gaming. Generally, there are very little performance differences. BTR’s PC excels when a faster CPU/DDR5 makes a positive performance difference. We would expect even less of an advantage in CPU-heavy games at 1440P or at 4K when the faster PCGz video card would probably pull ahead. Score a win or at least a tie for the PCGz i7-10700K/DDR4 prebuilt PC at less cost than BTR’s i9-12900KF/DDR5 build.

Let’s look at non-gaming applications next to see if the PC GamerZ Hawaii PC is also a solid performer in creative/workstation/pro tasks starting with Blender benchmarks.

Blender 3.01 Benchmark

Blender is a very popular open source 3D content creation suite. It supports every aspect of 3D development with a complete range of tools for professional 3D creation.

We benchmarked all three Open Data Blender.org benchmarks which measures both CPU and GPU performance by measuring samples per second by render production files.

For the following chart, higher is better as the benchmark renders a scene multiple times and gives the results as samples per second.

The 12900KF spanks the 12700KF using Blender’s CPU rendering benchmarks, but the 12700KF/RTX 3080 FTW combination is faster than the 12900KF/RTX 3080 FE equipped PC in the GPU benchmarks.

Next, we move on to AIDA64 CPU, Cache & Memory, and GPGPU benchmarks.

AIDA64 v6.70

AIDA64 is an important industry tool for benchmarkers. Its GPGPU benchmarks measure performance and give scores to compare against other popular video cards while it’s CPU benchmarks compare relative performance of processors.

AIDA64’s benchmark code methods are written in Assembly language, and they are well-optimized for every popular AMD, Intel, NVIDIA and VIA processor by utilizing the appropriate instruction set extensions. We use the Engineer’s full version of AIDA64 courtesy of FinalWire. AIDA64 is free to to try and use for 30 days.

CPU/FPU Benchmark Results

CPU results are summarized below in two charts for comparison.

GPGPU Benchmark Summary

Here is the comparison summarized between the BTR’s 12900KF/DDR5 flagship PC and the Blue Elixir 12700KF/DDR4 PC.

Cache & Memory Benchmarks

12900KF/DDR5
12700KF/DDR4

Here is the summary chart.

For workstation, creative, and professional applications using the CPU, the 12900KF/DDR5 combination performs well ahead of the PCGz Blue Elite’s 12700KF/DDR4 PC. So let’s look at Sandra 2021 next.

SiSoft Sandra 2021

To see where the CPU, GPU, and motherboard performance results differ, there is no better tool than SiSoft’s Sandra 2021. SiSoftware SANDRA (the System ANalyser, Diagnostic and Reporting Assistant) is a excellent information & diagnostic utility in a complete package. It is able to provide all the information about your hardware, software, and other devices for diagnosis and for benchmarking. Sandra is derived from a Greek name that implies “defender” or “helper”.

There are several versions of Sandra, including a free version of Sandra Lite that anyone can download and use. Sandra 2021 is the latest version, and we are using the full engineer suite courtesy of SiSoft. Sandra 2021 features continuous multiple monthly incremental improvements over earlier versions of Sandra. It will benchmark and analyze all of the important PC subsystems and even rank your PC while giving recommendations for improvement.

We ran the latest version of Sandra’s intensive Processor benchmarks and summarize the overall results below.

In Sandra’s synthetic CPU benchmarks, the i9-12900KF is much stronger than the i7-12700KF.

Cinebench

Cinebench is based on MAXON’s professional 3D content creation suite, Cinema 4D. This latest R23 version of Cinebench can test up to 64 processor threads accurately and automatically. It is an excellent tool to compare CPU/memory performance and higher is better.

Cinebench’s Multi-Core benchmark will stress a CPU reasonably well over its 10-minute run and will show any weaknesses in CPU cooling. This is the test where we discovered that the Blue Elixir’s 12700K hit nearly 100C on Core 5 and lead us to conclude that the wrong LGA 1151 backplate was used by the PCGz builders instead of LGA 1700.

Here is the summary chart.

The 12900KF/DDR5 combination is the faster PC in Cinebench. However, the 12700KF/DDR4 PC has nothing to be ashamed of. Now we benchmark using GeekBench which measures CPU and GPU performance.

GeekBench

GeekBench is an excellent CPU/GPU benchmarking program which runs a series of tests and times how long the processor takes to complete its tasks.

Single Core Performance

First single core performance starting with the 12700KF/DDR4 Blue Elixir.

Now single core performance with the 12900KF/DDR5 PC.

The 12900KF has a stronger single core performance. Next we check multi-core.

Multi Core Performance

First CPU multi core performance starting with the 12700KF/DDR5 Blue Elixir.

Now CPU multi-core performance with BTR’s 12900KF.

Again, the i9-12900KF is stronger than the 12700KF in Multi-core performance benching.

Next we test the two PCs using OpenCL, CUDA, and Vulcan using GeekBench graphics-heavy benchmarks.

Open CL, CUDA, and Vulcan

First, we test the RTX 3080 FTW and the i7-12700KF using OpenCL, CUDA, and Vulcan

Finally, we test BTR’s RTX 3080 FE and the i9-12900KF using OpenCL, CUDA, and Vulcan

The summary charts below show the comparative performance scores.

In Geekbench, the stronger i9-12900KF/DDR5 PC pulls ahead of the i7-12700KF/DDR4 in every CPU test while the 12700KF/DDR5 Blue Elixir paired with the faster RTX 3080 FTW beats the i9-12900KF paired with the slower RTX 3080 FE in GPU compute except for the Vulcan benchmark.

Lets check out Octanebench, another GPU-heavy test

Octanebench

OctaneBench allows you to benchmark GPUs using OctaneRender. The hardware and software requirements to run OctaneBench are the same as for OctaneRender Standalone.

Here is the summary chart:

Again, the combination of the 12700KF with the RTX 3080 FTW is faster than the 12900KF with the RTX 3080 FE. Next up, SPECworkstation.

SPECworkstation3 (3.0.4) Benchmarks

All the SPECworkstation3 benchmarks are based on professional applications, most of which are in the CAD/CAM or media and entertainment fields. All of these benchmarks are free except to vendors of computer-related products and/or services. The most comprehensive workstation benchmark is SPECworkstation3. It’s a free-standing benchmark which does not require ancillary software. It measures GPU, CPU, storage and all other major aspects of workstation performance based on actual applications and representative workloads.

SPECworkstation benchmarks are very demanding and all benchmarks were tested in an official run.
Here are the SPECworkstation Raw Scores which give the details.
We see the same thing repeated in all of the synthetic tests – the i9-12900KF/RTX 3080 FE is generally faster in CPU-heavy benchmarks while the i7-10700KF/RTX 3080 FTW is generally faster in GPU-heavy benching. In addition, storage benchmarks favor the faster Gen 4×4 NVMe SSD in BTR’s flagship.
Now, let’s look at a GPU-heavy SPEC benching suite, SPECviewperf 2020.

SPECviewperf 2020 GPU Benches

The SPEC Graphics Performance Characterization Group (SPECgpc) released a 2020 version of its SPECviewperf benchmark that features updated viewsets, new models, support for up to 4K display resolutions, and improved set-up and results management. We use 1900×1060 display resolution.

Here are SPECviewperf 2020 benchmarks summarized in the chart below.

Again the PC GamerZ PC is faster in eight of 9 individual benchmarks because of the faster RTX 3080 FTW.

The decision to buy a new CPU, memory, and video card should be based on the workflow and requirements of each user as well as their budget. Time is money depending on how these apps are used. However, the target demographic for the PC GamerZ Blue Elixir is primarily 1080P and 1440P gaming for gamers, and in this area, the Blue Elixir excels and it does not fare badly in the workstation and creative benchmarks.

Let’s head to our conclusion.

Final Thoughts

Our conclusion depends partly on pricing and partly on convenience. Let’s look at today’s pricing of the individual components on Amazon and on Newegg.

  • 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700KF – $363.99 (The 12700 is $342.99 which is a more logical choice for a H670 motherboard.)
  • ASUS TUF GAMING H670-PRO WIFI D4 motherboard – $229.99
  • Trident Z 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 with ARGB – $174.99
  • Lian-Li Galahad 360 AIO Cooler – $248.99
  • CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh White case – $123.99
  • EVGA 850W PSU (Bronze) – $99.99
  • Crucial P2 1TB NVMe SSD (2400MBps/1900MBps Read/Write) – $84.99
  • EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 12GB 1800 MHz Boost Clock/12GB 384 bit GDDR6X video card – $1199.99
  • Windows 10 Pro with optimizations – $129.00
  • Video screen – You’d have to source, custom build, and probably program it yourself.

If you want to save $150, PCGz’ Blue Elixir offers a EVGA RTX 3080 XC3 12GB (as pictured below) which comes without RGB and is slightly slower (-25MHz) than the FTW but still faster than BTR’s overclocked RTX 3080 Founders Edition.

The Blue Elixir comes in a Black or White case and now with an added custom programmed video screen

If you buy the individual parts and source them yourself, before tax and any shipping, it comes to $2655.92 – without any video screen. It also means that when you build it yourself, you get all the joy and headaches that come with building a PC. For BTR’s flagship build, it meant RMA’ing G.SKILL DDR5 6000 which took 10 days, and also replacing a MSI 360R cooler that was inadequate for cooling the 12900K. It also took many hours of work to optimize the build for stability in benchmarking. Any problems or issues that arise in the future are mine and will need to be researched and addressed.

For gamers that don’t have the time or the skill set to build a PC from parts, the PCGz Blue Elixir is a ready made $3500 top PC that you unbox and plug in – and it just works. BTR spent nearly $4000 on its flagship PC and it is basically about as fast in gaming as the Blue Elixir at 1080P – where the 12900KF CPU makes the most difference over a 12700K. Of course, we use it for more than gaming.

PC Gamerz high end Blue Elixir compares favoribly in pricing with the big box and boutique builders with the difference being that they offer a higher level of custom service with a completely tested PC that they will support – parts and labor – for two years plus lifetime tech support.

For example, Alienware offers a similar PC at a similar price to the Blue Elixir. It offers a slightly faster 12900K CPU, but a slower RTX 3080 10GB (instead of 12GB). It offers 64GB (that a gamer doesn’t need) of painfully slow DDR5 (4400MHz), and a very small 120mm AIO that is likely insufficient to properly cool the CPU in a stylish if cramped case that will be hard to upgrade. Included support/warranty lasts for only 1 year which isn’t that great having experienced Dell’s service for a gaming laptop. I would pick PCGz if I didn’t build PCs.

One thing we love about the Blue Elixir – besides its outstanding cable management – is that they chose a decent 850W PSU that will probably power the next generation of video cards – a simple remove and replace will allow for an upgrade unlike many big box PC builders that require the PSU to be upgraded also. Although we can nitpick ‘Bronze’, EVGA sells decent PSUs that deliver the wattage they specify. We spent a ridiculous amount of money on a 1200W Platinum PSU.

PCGz also gives a 1TB NVMe SSD which is generally sufficient for most gamers, and it is very easy to install a second NVMe SSD in the top slot without removing the video card if a gamer decides to expand storage. In addition, if Rocket Lake offers a solid upgrade over Alder Lake’s 12700 this year, it will be easy to drop in the new CPU with a BIOS flash as the Cooler Master case is large and easy to work in. PCGz has left room for expansion and upgrades with minimal fuss. All of the parts they chose are first class.

Let’s sum it up:

The Pros

  • The PCGz Blue Elite 12700KF/DDR4/EVGA RTX 3080 12GB PC is a solid PC that competes well in gaming with Intel’s top DDR5 PC
  • The case is large for expansion or upgrades and the fans are quiet
  • The PSU is of sufficiently high capacity to upgrade video cards
  • The cable management is exquisite
  • Each PC is individually tested and benchmarked before being shipped out
  • PCGz optimizes the BIOS and Win 10 for gamers
  • Two years Parts & Labor Warranty and lifetime tech support
  • New video screen adds extra value

Cons

  • Pricing is high
  • QC let the wrong CPU backplate slip by
  • Mismatch of KF CPU with H670 MB. Either a non-K CPU should be used with H670 or a Z690 MB should be offered for OC potential with K CPUs

The Verdict:

If a gamer is looking for a very well made, solid and handsome PC that will just work perfectly for gamers with great support, the PC Gamerz Hawaii Blue Elixir should be considered. It is a solidly-built good-looking RGB desktop that trades blows with a top Intel DDR5 desktop in gaming. PCGz support is awesome and they justify their repeat customers and good reviews.

We will not be surprised to see PCGz become popular outside of Hawaii in the months to come.

Stay tuned for Part 2. We were somewhat surprised to see that PC GamerZ was still using Windows 10 so we decided to compare its performance with Win 11. We will post this review next week and then follow it up with a SSD review and then a VR review featuring the Hellhound RX 6650 XT versus the RX 6700 XT and versus the RTX 3060 Ti by next weekend.

We hope to follow up with PC GamerZ Hawaii the next time we visit the Islands, but until then we will say aloha and a hui ho (until we meet again).

Aloha and Happy Gaming!

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In Depth with PC Enthusiasts in Hawaii – Gaming in Paradise https://babeltechreviews.com/pc-gaming-in-hawaii/ Sun, 12 Dec 2021 22:37:55 +0000 /?p=25587 Read more]]> Growth, Current, and Future of Hawaiian PC Gaming

Hawaii is the world’s longest island chain located more than 2,500 miles from the US Mainland. Formed by a series of active volcanoes, the Hawaiian Islands are unique in their geology and unmatched beauty as well as rich history, ethnically diverse people, and culture. Much has been written about Hawaii’s online gaming – that it is impossible to maintain a professional eSports team because of its isolation and high latency, gaming factions, and physical distances which require air travel.

As a former 8-year resident, on-air DJ, surf reporter, local business owner, and big wave surfer on Oahu’s North Shore from 1992-2000, we still have many friends who live there. Last month, on a medical leave of absence for necessary allergy treatments, we visited our friends and had a great month-long vacation in Honolulu, a crowded city of more than one million residents. However, since writers never really take vacations, and as a PC gamer and Editor-in-Chief of BabeltechReviews, we checked on the local gaming scene.

We were able to investigate Hawaii current gaming scene by interviewing three key people: Mekel Kasonava, a journalist who hosts the number one Hawaiian podcast; Devin Wolery, owner of PC GamerZ Hawaii, the state’s largest local retail/etail outlet; and Jordan Oliver, eSports Manager at Hawaii Pacific University (HPU).

Mekel Kasanova

Source: https://www.twitch.tv/mekelkasanova

We interviewed Hawaii’s number one podcaster, Mekel Kasanova, regarding video gaming in Hawaii. The Kasanova Podcast is a talkshow featuring technology, video games, and interviews. His YouTube channel features the slogan, “Island Pride/Global Ambition”.

How and when did you get started as a podcaster and what do you believe has made you successful in Hawaii?

I started my podcast back in September 2017 after doing a podcast for a few months with one of my friends. We had started a show called Tech Etc Podcast where we talked about tech and gaming news as former Microsoft employees, and to give insight from what we know both as consumers and former insiders.

When I went into my podcast, I initially wanted to just casually talk about gaming and tech like I would on the Tech Etc Podcast but also reached out to other content creators to get their perspective. Not long after I started my podcast, Tech Etc Podcast ended after my friend moved away from Hawaii. Thus all my free time and equipment went into making The Kasanova Podcast more than just about gaming and tech, but about organic conversations on any topic.

I started reaching out to various voice actors, Hollywood celebs, the game and tech industry, and more to have conversations with my guests about their fields and how they got started and what insight they could give to the listening audience. As far as what’s allowed me to be successful with podcasting in Hawaii, I really have to say it’s been my desire to not focus on Hawaii and the local scenes here, but to strive for a global outreach and audience.

I’ve seen so many creators in various fields from podcasting, streaming, and YouTube here try to focus on the local scene and locals, but the reality is that content creating in general is not fondly looked upon and is seen as “playing around on the internet” and not a serious endeavor. Many creators never grow very far if at all here. Seeing the few successful creators here focus on a global outreach and audience is what inspired me to do the same, and it has helped my podcast successfully to be the #1 podcast in Hawaii for the last 4 years in a row, and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down.

What advice would you give young Hawaiian gamers who want to get gaming-related jobs while also continuing their education?

My advice would be to utilize social media as a means to connect with the industry because that is the direction the industry is in. Nearly all my ability to work with the gaming industry in either QA testing, consultation, development, and more has come from connecting with the companies and the people in various companies, and building lasting relationships with them that will be mutually beneficial.

As far as continuing education and wanting to get into the industry, I would say look for opportunities to get your foot in the door such as QA testing or Marketing/Media, or any entry level position. Then let it be known what you would like to do in the company, from game design to PR and more. Having a solid foundation in writing/mock-up writing, social media (absolutely essential), and planning/organization goes a long way in this field.

What is the current local gaming scene like, and has Hawaii produced many pro gamers?

The local gaming scene is scattered, and there are various groups doing various things, and honestly aren’t really pushing to do more outside of the locals they cater to. There are groups from Twitch streamers, a group and company for PC Gaming, and even various groups for fighting games. The problem is that none of these groups are able to cohesively work together, and it ends up with one or the other falling out.

An example would be when I was contacted by Hawaii Con to host a Dragon Ball FighterZ tournament with some of the voice actors of the show. Hawaii Con had reached out to several of these groups and were met with various demands for compensation, and when they chose to work with me, I ended up catching the bulk of the backlash from these groups. Therefore I don’t work with any of them. As far as pro gamers are concerned, Hawaii hasn’t really generated any.

Do you foresee an improving local gaming scene that develops pro gaming teams that stay in Hawaii after near-earth satellite (Starlink, etc.) drops your ping significantly?

I think for the local gaming scenes to improve, we need to have new people taking over that genuinely want the scene in Hawaii as a whole to grow and just not be for local groups and factions. Hopefully the new generation would like to build something new. When I was a guest speaker at the University of Hawaii at Maui, a lot of the upcoming generation wanted to make a more inclusive community for gaming and tech, and to build beyond just the local scene to also have a global presence.

PC GamerZ Hawaii

We needed to upgrade BTR’s flagship PC but were unable to source Intel’s top 12th Generation CPU from the usual etailers for a reasonable price so we searched for a local source. We found PC Gamerz Hawaii which is the largest local reseller and builder of custom PCs and PC hardware in the Islands. We purchased a i9-12900KF for $686 (now $649).

Since we didn’t have a local mailing address, we purchased it online on Friday and wanted to pick up the CPU at their retail store but found out that they were in the process of moving to a new location at the Navy Exchange Mall at Pearl Harbor. Normally, they have pickups only from their warehouse in Aiea, but we wanted to check out the new retail outlet, and PC Gamerz kindly made an exception so we could arrive on Monday for the grand opening.

Source: PCGamerZ

As a partner with NVIDIA, one of the PC Gamerz owners noticed my old GTC shirt and it brought up a long conversation which lead to an invitation to meet with the owner at their warehouse the following week.

We met Devin Wolery, owner and Chief Operations Officer at PC Gamerz Hawaii. He sees a bright future for PC gaming in Hawaii and they have even recently expanded their business to ship outside of Hawaii.

PC Gamerz Hawaii was established in 2008 when Devin purchased the name from another company. It was originally a small local PC game-oriented business, and they spent a lot of time organizing tournaments and events. However, COVID-19 changed everything and organizing indoor events became impossible until recently.

Since the pandemic has increased business, PC Gamerz decided to concentrate on retail/etail sales. From humble beginnings, they have recently increased sales by more than tenfold by concentrating on building custom PCs with a very strong emphasis on customer satisfaction and service.

PC Gamerz Hawaii is a Tier 2 partner with NVIDIA, and although they get good prices on their graphics cards and have a large supply, they sell individual cards at competitive prices since they don’t want scalpers to take advantage of them, and they pass the discounts on to their custom build purchasers.

PC Gamerz specialize in water-cooled custom builds and use a laser etching machine to create unique panels. The first picture below is of a side panel for a custom case, and the second is of their laser etching machine.

PC parts are first tested individually, and unlike big box sellers, PC Gamerz tests and stress tests the entire system as a whole before shipping out the PC.

Technicians update Windows 10 and also install and update any games the purchaser requests. No junk programs are installed and the PC is sent out as fully game-ready.

Information Technology is handled by Devin’s brother, and PC Gamerz operates like a family owned business with several junior partners.

Although, PC Gamerz closed eSports when Hawaii’s strict pandemic restrictions began, they still use their fat internet connection and have leased their tournament room to a former employee, Kyler Tandall of EMP Live Designs, who is again starting to produce events as restrictions ease.

PC gaming is alive and growing in Hawaii as evidenced by the success of PC Gamerz and they have expanded their business to ship to the Mainland. We hope to test out one of their custom PCs for BTR’s readers the next time we visit.

Next we traveled to Honolulu’s iconic Aloha Tower Marketplace to visit the Hawaii Pacific University (HPU) eSports Arena.

Jordan Oliver, Manager (HPU) eSports Arena

We visited HPU’s eSports Arena and spoke to their manager, Jordan Oliver, about PC gaming’s relation to education.

According to Jordan, Hawaii has an active and vibrant video gaming scene because entertainment has changed and is still evolving. In fact, eSports has more viewers than traditional sports.

The HPU eSports Arena uses RTX 3080 GeForce video cards and 240Hz 1080P G-SYNC displays because of NVIDIA’s gaming ecosystem that benefits pro gamers

From meeting Jordan, it is obvious he is passionate about eSports and PC gaming. He is not just an eSports advocate but an evangelist. He joined HPU after establishing and managing the eSports Program at Randolph College in Lynchburg, Virginia. In addition, he is a member at the eSports faculty at Vancouver Animation School and has worked with the University of California, Irvine, where he helped develop their eSports curriculum.

Jordan believes that the future of eSports is too big to fail, and he wants to help young Hawaiian gamers – especially those in middle and high school – to look to gaming as a career and not just as a pastime. We agreed that gaming has been ridiculed as a “waste of time” and deemed “futureless” by the ignorant.

Indeed, just as school sports build teamwork and discipline, eSports does also but with even more advantages. Because of what is related to it – computers, IT, programming, art, storytelling and game development in addition to developing hand-eye coordination skills – PC gaming can offer meaningful lifetime employment for a gamer. Gaming is a huge industry now and it is still growing. Jordan believes that there is a future in becoming a game master as long as one learns to monetize themselves and will do more than just “play”. He councils young players to spend their time in gaming but also to journal what they do so they can see their weaknesses and plot a path forward.

Just as with physical sports, time spent gaming is not wasted as one gets better and better until mastery is achieved. A gamer can build an audience and a following – or can work in related fields – for a lifetime, unlike with traditional sports that generally offer only short pro careers. Jordan believes that PC gaming offers a real future for young gamers as a career path. He tries to show middle and high schools what is possible when they create teams, and someday he looks forward to someone getting a doctorate in gaming, perhaps as a educator.

Jordan starts at the grassroots level to encourage youth that gaming is isn’t a waste of time. His goal is to educate the community in general, and especially the parents of gamers. He works with HPU to build teams, and they even offer annual eSports scholarships of $1K to $6K to encourage gamers in addition to any other available scholarships and grants.

I asked about women in gaming and Jordan pointed out that they have gotten very good and make up about 40% of the total gamers yet there is still a toxic environment. Many male gamers are still rude, and he says they work to shame them. He encourages the community to all work together.

Of course we talked about VR. Jordan believes it is the future but there is currently less emphasis at HPU because they only have Rift S and Quest 2 headsets. HPU plans to expand with a dedicated VR room.

Only half of the Alienware PCs are set up now because of Hawaii’s strict pandemic restrictions, and most of the gamers were away for Thanksgiving holiday

Jordan says there are the equivalent of pro gamers in Hawaii but – just as with other talent in Hawaii – there is a ‘brain drain’ syphoned off to the Mainland. For example, the police get trained very well by the Honolulu Police Department, but then Seattle or Austin will recruit officers by offering them higher salaries and lower costs of living.

The real issue is that pro gamers cannot really live and compete in Hawaii because of the extreme physical distance and the high latency of an extra 60-100ms ping that makes local pros less competitive. Online gamers must respond to what they see on the screen but because Hawaii gamers see it slightly later, they cannot compete on equal terms with Mainland gamers.

Jordan looks forward to the day when near-earth satellite like Starlink will finally level the playing field for all gamers worldwide when latency becomes a non-issue. Then Hawaii can keep and field pro gaming teams.

In the meantime, HPU will continue to work the local talent field, talk with parents and educators to legitimize gaming, and help make it even more popular. Local parents may realize that HPU is a lot less expensive than many other Hawaiian universities, and may allow their kids to attend with a view to getting a well-rounded education related to gaming. China has lost an entire generation of competitive gamers because of their ridiculous restrictions on young online gamers, and the rest of the world including Hawaii may benefit.

We want to thank, Mekel, Devin, and Jordan for their interviews. Although challenges remain, there is a bright future for Hawaiian gamers and especially for the youth who may wish to work in game-related industries.

We hope to follow up this Summer but until then we will say aloha and a hui ho (until we meet again).

Happy Gaming!

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